STOCKHOLM (Rixstep) — Ultra-feminist Ireen von Wachenfeldt was forced to resign after the documentary Könskriget (The Gender War) was shown on Swedish national television but not without a struggle. Her first tack was to claim her comments were taken out of context. So Evin Rubar appeared on early morning television with the entire interview which can be seen below.
The interview was transcribed by Karin Thurfjell of SvD and published on 27 May 2005. von Wachenfeldt resigned shortly after. The webpage description adds the following.
'This morning SVT aired the three unedited minutes of 'Dokument inifrån' reporter Evin Rubar's interview with ROKS chairman Ireen von Wachenfeldt where she finally fells the controversial statement that men are animals. SvD is publishing the complete exchange.'
This is the second time a militant feminist interviewed by that programme bought it by choosing to be less than honest and by underestimating technology.
Q: So this is your magazine. A: Hmm.
Q: It says here that to call a man an animal is to flatter him. A. Says? What... What are you getting at?
Q: Yes, this is of course the ROKS magazine? A: Yes, that's the ROKS magazine.
Q: It says here in your magazine that 'to call a man an animal is to flatter him. He's a machine, a wandering dildo, an emotional parasite'. Why do you print things like that in your magazine? A: Yes but isn't that about men's thoughts?
Q: But it's about what you write about men. A: Yes.
Q: So this is how you view men? A: Yes.
Q: So you stand by your remark that 'to call a man an animal is to flatter him'? A: But now you've taken it from here, Lina wrote that, from a book, right?
Q: Yes. A: This is our feminist magazine. But this is a report. And I think she's writing about a book. She's writing about the SCUM Manifesto here.
Q: What is the SCUM Manifesto? A: Yeah but... It's a book.
Q: Yes it's a book. The Society for Cutting Up Men. A: Yes. Precisely.
Q: So why do you praise that in your magazine? A: We report on everything with feminism - this is a feministically good magazine, I think it's the only one in Sweden.
Q: So you think it's OK to praise a book where it says to call a man an animal is to flatter him. A: Yes. But that's a report, that's what she's writing about.
Q: But that book... A: So you mean that simply because it's found in our magazine then our entire movement will stand by that statement. It's a description of the book.
Q: Yes but that statement is praised in your magazine. A: Yes, that's the way we experience it, if we look at the complete picture in society today, with all the sexist advertisement, you see this happening, and so it's precisely as she says there. That's the way men are portrayed and this is what continues historically about men, and men will have that perception, in other words that's what men get out of it. That's exactly what we mean by education. This can result in men thinking they have complete power and control.
Q: You think it's OK to praise a book that says that masculinity is a medical deficiency disease and that the male is a biological tragedy? A: But I don't want to comment on that because this is a letter to the editor in the magazine and I don't want to go public and comment on that and tell our entire movement that they are under that, you understand.
Q: Yes but in your magazine. A: Yes.
Q: So you praise this manifesto? A: Yes, that's how they've covered it.
Q: That it's... That men are animals and machines and wandering dildos - you stand by that? A: Yes I do.
Q: Men are animals. A: Men.Are.Animals.Don't you think? Don't you think so?