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Nocturnal Penile Tumescence and the European Arrest Warrant

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Flashback has been plagued of late, as many know, by an obstinate troll who tries to defend Marianne Ny and the overall Swedish treatment of Julian Assange at all costs.

It's not going well for the troll, to say the least.

The latest faux pas is claiming that DNA is no more than a fingerprint.

The grander topic is, of course, why Marianne Ny would insist on another DNA test for Assange when his DNA is already on file in Great Britain.

First in this discussion is forum member 'PlanBoksBok'.

NO NO NO! You don't realise what a nightmare scenario you're conjuring? If you, for some reason, were allowed to decide things, even an itsy bitsy bit, the cloud cover would be heavy and dark. You and your friends have to be kept as far away as possible from the legislature.

So DNA is the same thing as a passport? A driving licence? Hey can you post a letter to NFC and ask them if they too think DNA is the same thing? And post your letter here in the forum, please.

And that's but one example. If I touch an object of some sort, and that object is later found at the scene of a crime, does that mean I've been there?

This was part of a discussion, started by the troll, of how DNA tests are supposedly not 'intrusive'...

Forum member 'OutOfTheBlue' now runs with the ball, and invites readers along on a scary journey much like Lars Schaff might do on occasion.

There's a Swedish case where a man was convicted of murder solely on the evidence that his fingerprints were found on a cable at the scene of a crime...

[Readers outside Sweden: take note. Such is the Swedish court system. Beware.]

But he hired forensic experts from abroad and was ultimately freed. A likely explanation was that the cable was part of something that had been donated to charity, something the victim later purchased. So yes, one must be very careful with things one gives away, donates to charity, or touches in a shop but does not buy. Fingerprints, even DNA, are found everywhere.

But 'OutOfTheBlue' now turns on a dime. Watch!

If nothing else, this shows how little Assange's DNA means for the 'investigation'. He hasn't denied having sex with Sofia. A DNA match could just as well be used to prove that Sofia raped Assange, whilst he slept, for he did seem to be the more exhausted of the two...

Sofia even testified that he snored...


[Misnomer: the 'snoring' bit was the work of Claes Borgström who tried to plant 'triggers' in Sofia's testimony.]

A recurring theme in Sofia's story is that she was actually awake when he was asleep, and that she was sorely disappointed that their midnight foreplay didn't lead to sex. There she is, sitting on the bed next to him as he sleeps, punching out SMS messages to her friends, pissed as hell that she still hasn't bonked him...

'OutOfTheBlue' now quotes Wikipedia.

Nocturnal penile tumescence (abbreviated as NPT), also known colloquially as morning wood or morning glory, is a spontaneous erection of the penis during sleep or when waking up.

All men without physiological erectile dysfunction experience nocturnal penile tumescence, usually three to five times during the night, typically during REM sleep.

NPTs are believed to contribute to penile health.

And 'OutOfTheBlue' again.

A frustrated woman who takes as she wants, who as much as touches his penis under such circumstances, in Sweden is guilty of rape.

If the man doesn't wake up, then he doesn't know he's been raped, but suppose he in fact does wake up. Suppose further that over the next few days, he goes to the police for advice and tells them his story. And the word 'rape' will be mentioned. And all the policemen will be in agreement that it's rape...

Does anyone really believe our Marianne Ny would start a Red Notice Interpol manhunt? And get the support of the global feminist mafia? And how many times would Marianne Ny insist the woman submit to a DNA test?

The original decision for a DNA test was to have been taken on 27 September 2010 when Assange was en route from his residence in Stockholm to the Arlanda international airport. Marianne Ny still cites this decision, despite the fact that it was made redundant, ten weeks later, with the DNA test in the UK.

I'm so sick of it all. Will it never end? At any rate I want to say the other girl's just as much to blame.
 - Anna Ardin

Apparently Swedish laws are unique. If you have a penis you're half a rapist before you even get through customs.
 - Scott Adams

If I am able to reveal what I know, everyone will realise this is all a charade. If I could tell the British courts, I suspect it would make extradition a moot point.
 - Björn Hurtig

I can tell you that the Swedish prosecution still hasn't provided copies of those SMS texts that have been referred to. Those texts are some of the most powerful exculpatory evidence. In Australia prosecutors have a very grave duty to disclose such evidence to courts when seeking the grave exercise of a court's power against an individual. Yet in Sweden in this case, in the first hearings to obtain an arrest warrant, those texts were not submitted to the Swedish court, which is highly improper.
 - James Catlin

The prosecutor could achieve this broadening of the law during Assange's trial so he can be convicted of a crime that didn't exist at the time he allegedly committed it. She would need to. There is no precedent for this. The Swedes are making it up as they go along.
 - James Catlin

Julian Assange will surely learn that considering what WikiLeaks has published, he's got a few enemies in the Pentagon, the CIA, and the White House. Sweden began an investigation into rape which was later dismissed. Assange was even denied residence in Sweden. One can only speculate to what extent the security agencies of the US were involved. And considering the obvious interest of the US to silence WikiLeaks, is it likely Assange will have an accident of the 'Boston brakes' kind in the coming years? Or will he be snared with compromising information of the 'honey trap' kind?
 - 'Drozd' at Flashback 23 October 2010

The truth will out, the truth wins out. Let no journalist ever again speculate into what the protocols say. Six months of digging and the people at Flashback have the actual documents. The sleaze printed by rags such as the Daily Mail, Sweden's Aftonbladet and Expressen, and perhaps above all the toxic Nick Davies of the Guardian, can stand no more. Yet more: these documents are an indictment of the 'news organisations' who've printed deliberate inaccuracies all along or even worse: refused to print anything at all. Nick Davies' account of the protocols was maliciously skewed; both Aftonbladet and Expressen had copies early on and printed nothing. Bloggers had copies but arrogantly kept the information to their Smeagol selves.
 - The Assange Police Protocol: Translator's Note

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